From: "asterite (Ary Borenszweig)" Date: 2013-11-06T23:22:09+09:00 Subject: [ruby-core:58202] [ruby-trunk - Feature #9076] New one-argument block syntax: &. Issue #9076 has been updated by asterite (Ary Borenszweig). alexeymuranov (Alexey Muranov) wrote: > > Note that in doing `array.map &:to_s` the `do ... end` and curly braces are also missing. However, the `&` signals a block, just as when you do `foo &block`. This is no different than `foo &.something` where, again, the `&` signals a block. > > Ary, in `array.map &:to_s` curly braces are missing because there is no literal block definition, the block is the result of the `&` operator applied to a symbol. I know. Did you know that you can't do `&:to_s` wherever you want? irb(main):001:0> &:to_s SyntaxError: (irb):1: syntax error, unexpected tAMPER &:to_s ^ irb(main):002:0> a = &:to_s SyntaxError: (irb):2: syntax error, unexpected tAMPER a = &:to_s ^ That means, Ruby only recognizes `&` as the last argument to a call. That also means that the `&` operator can only mean a block, somehow. Similarly, `&.` will mean a block with the semantics I already explained. > > The main problem IMO with your proposed syntactic sugar for the common special case is that it adds a completely new syntactic rule to Ruby, and also breaks one or more of existing ones. No, it doesn't break anything because right now that `&.to_s` gives syntax error, which means that syntax is available for defining new meanings. Normally in Ruby > > .. > > means: "call the method named by on the object named by or value returned by the method , then call the method named on the result, then yield the result as the argument to a call of the method named by " > > (I am not a specialist, i am not sure i am using all the terms correctly.) > > It seems to me that what you are looking for is probably a shorter notation for a one-argument lambda. I personally doubt that there is much space in Ruby syntax to introduce it. As I said, there *is* space in Ruby syntax for it, precisely because right now it's a syntax error. > > Skipping the curly braces does not look to me like a benefit and may make the syntax ambiguous or not flexible. When you do `map &:to_s` you are skipping the curly braces. > > The performance penalty of the `&` operator probably can be worked around by compiling the code. What do you mean? I think this can be done by Ruby, yes: just make `a.map &:to_s` be the same as `a.map { |x| x.to_s }` by the parser... I think they are discussing similar things to do related to frozen strings. ---------------------------------------- Feature #9076: New one-argument block syntax: &. https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/9076#change-42783 Author: asterite (Ary Borenszweig) Status: Feedback Priority: Low Assignee: Category: core Target version: Next Major Hello, I'd like to introduce a new syntax for blocks that have one argument. Currently you can do this: [1, 2, 3].map &:to_s With the proposed syntax this will be written as: [1, 2, 3].map &.to_s Instead of ":" we use a ".". The idea is that this new syntax is just syntax sugar that is expanded by the parser to this: [1, 2, 3].map { |arg| arg.to_s } This new syntax allows passing arguments: [1, 2, 3, 4].map &.to_s(2) #=> ["1", "10", "11", "100"] It also allows chaining calls: [1, 10, 100].map &.to_s.length #=> [1, 2, 3] You can also use another block: [[1, -2], [-3, -4]].map &.map &.abs #=> [[1, 2], [3, 4]] Pros: - Doesn't conflict with any existing syntax, because that now gives a syntax error, so it is available. - Allows passing arguments and chaining calls - It's *fast*: it's just syntax sugar. The "&:to_s" is slower because the to_proc method is invoked, you have a cache of procs, etc. - It looks ok (in my opinion) and allows very nice functional code (like the last example). Cons: - Only supports one (implicit) argument. But this is the same limitation of "&:to_s". If you want more than one argument, use the traditional block syntax. - It's a new syntax, so users need to learn it. But to defend this point, users right now need to understand the &:to_s syntax, which is hard to explain (this calls the "to_proc" method of Symbol, which creates a block... vs. "it's just syntax sugar for") What do you think? We are using this syntax in a new language we are doing, Crystal, which has a syntax very similar to Ruby, and so far we think it's nice, simple and powerful. You can read more about it here: http://crystal-lang.org/2013/09/15/to-proc.html -- http://bugs.ruby-lang.org/